It seems that his partner was rather uncommitted to the project, and after a number of days of cajoling and nagging his partner, and pleading with his teacher to intervene, Daniel had had enough. On the day it was due, his partner had not done his part and Daniel was convinced that he would receive a failing grade. He was devastated.
Not surprisingly, every other parent to whom I have related this tale understands the issue, and has their own plethora of like examples, not only from their children but from their very own school experience, and they remain as mystified as I as to why on Earth our educators continue to insist on pairing the doers with the non-doers, and giving out a group mark, thereby forcing the doers to perform and letting the non-doers coast along and reap the benefits. What kind of lesson is there in that?
I once complained to a teacher in junior high school that I was carrying the load for my pre-selected team (one of the members of which has had a wonderful career as a Zamboni driver for the past 25 years) on a project where we would get a "group" mark. Her response was nonchalant and she simply indicated that this was how things worked in real life. I found her position puzzling at the time and, I must confess, it left me a little skeptical of just what the adult working world was going to be like when I entered it. Did my parents work in places where they had carry slackers? When I grew up, would I be denied a promotion or a raise because my boss made me work with someone who didn't do what they were being paid to do? If I complained about the inequity, would my boss simply shrug and tell me this was "real life"? Could someone that stupid really be a boss?
Fortunately, just as I suspected at the time, real life is not like that. Sure, there are slackers in every workplace, but they rarely go anywhere other than their desk, and if I have had to work with one or two on a team, I have never had an difficulty convincing the higher powers that they either do not deserve any credit or that they need to be cut from the team altogether. Indeed, I and several of my professional colleagues have made a nice living advising employers that - yes - they can cut the slackers from the team, and how to do it. It was also comforting to confirm that most bosses did not get to the top by being slackers themselves. I have no doubt they paid their dues in school, carrying a slacker or two themselves for that "group" mark.
I have often wondered over the years why educators pair or team kids up this way. If the point is to ensure that the teams are evenly "matched", then teachers should at least be prepared to provide the oversight necessary to ensure that work is distributed equitably amongst team members, and they need to be prepared to address failure to complete the work undertaken. It is simply unfair to ask children in elementary school to supervise other team members. There is no power of sanction at their disposal. If the teacher doesn't enforce the work, the only lesson I see for the kids who do not do the work is that they can, in fact, coast along and there will be no consequences. Likewise, the lesson for the kids who do the work is that no matter how good they are, or how hard they work, they will pay the price for shoddy or no work by other team members.
What would the result be if teachers put the slackers together? When this was suggested to me the first time, I automatically jumped to the conclusion that chaos and failure would ensue, but on closer examination, I think it would create incredible opportunities for more kids to learn leadership skills and the value of pulling one's weight on a team. Students who would ordinarily coast simply couldn't. Students would not ordinarily feel confident enough or have the opportunity to lead, would get that chance. Wouldn't it be easier to learn this in grade 4 than in first year university or in one's first real job?
Daniel's story has a happy ending. On the sage advice of my dear friend, She of Many, I told him to stand up for himself and to go to his teacher and tell her that he would finish the project on his own. He would have to ask her for an extension. He did all of that, and his teacher, thankfully, accommodated him. In the end, though I say this with reluctance, I suppose that he learned something very valuable from the experience.

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I think the flaw in this reasoning is to assume that school is intended to prepare kids for something.
Other than that, another good lesson here is that life's not "fair."
Oh man, I am not looking forward to the first team project -- because with his distraction issues, I worry A. is going to be the slacker. Then againm in a group of kids he kind of takes the lead, and can work well on his own if he is interested, so I don't know.
I am thinking of just refusing to allow him to do group projects for marks. That's what I do plan to do when teachers start assigning kids to teams and then expect them to work on the project outside school. I'm going to just plain refuse. I never saw a team homework project that was worth the stress and the time away from other homeowrk, family, etc.
Educators, please feel free to wade on on this debate - What are group projects supposed to accomplish? Who benefits from group work but little girls who want to work in groups of other like minded girls?
Kids can learn teamwork in gym class.
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I admit it, I've done it!
First of all, while it is ultimately unfair to the doer in the equation, it is VERY helpful to the non doer because 9 times out of 10 the non-doer is not a non-doer out of sheer laziness. If he/she is... well that's a sad tale and sometimes there is little to be done about it. However even in a 'group' mark you should know that your child is really not being marked on the academic work the two do. It's an evaluation on teamwork and cooperation. We're not blind, we know when one is doing most of the work and it will 'all come out in the wash'. No child is going to fail a subject because his partner didn't help in the group project. I know many teachers, and I can't come up with one who would do something like that.
Educators are no longer allowed to mark on merely the academics of the world anymore. We have outcomes that involve cooperation etc. We have to give the students the opportunity to show their willingness and ability to work with others. Good or bad.
I also caution parents going into situations like this with the ultimatum "I'm not going to allow my child to be marked on this." That brings up many confrontational issues, speaks of not trusting in the teachers professionalism. Would you tell any other professional that you weren't going to allow them to do their job because you didn't like it? We are trained, qualified individuals who didnt just fall into our jobs. We do know what we're doing. No, no, no we're not perfect in the slightest, prone to as many human like mistakes as the next fellow but if you want to have your child have a healthy working relationship with his/her teacher you need to trust them and back them up a little.
I have a standard message to parents. I'll believe half of what your child tells me about you, if you believe half of what your child tells you about me.
Communication is really the best bet when it comes to teacher - parent interactions. Ask questions about these projects and the real expectations before you go in guns blazing. We're out to help kids become successful individuals or else we never would have taken the job. We want them to succeed and to work to be successful. Sometimes learning how to work with someone you don't get along with IS a life skill. I know it's something I have to use every day at my job!
So, that's my unsolicitated advice. There is no one answer, but I bet if you talk to the teacher before you drop your ultimatum/opinion/anger on the table you'll find out there's an easy solution.
That said, I'm sure there are unreasonable people on both sides of the table from time to time. Such is life, sadly.
Bethany said: "Would you tell any other professional that you weren't going to allow them to do their job because you didn't like it?"
Um -- YES. Definitely. Not because I don't like it, but because, after doing credible research, I think something they are doing is wrong, unhelpful or harmful.
In fact, doing so saved my own life and the life of my daughter in my last pregnancy. I told a lot of nurses and doctors they were wrong, needed to learn more about the disease I suffered, and basically told them how to treat me -- because I knew more about the disease (hyperemesis gravidarum) than most doctors, because I did my research.
Teachers are not demigods. They are teachers. And they've been wrong on a lot of things as a profession over the past 20-odd years. Some examples: teaching whole language instead of phonics, even though numerous peer-reviewed studies showed phonics was a better way to teach reading, especially to struggling students. Dropping spelling as an essential part of early elementary curriculum. Discouraging memorization (especially of the times tables.) New math. Having gifted elementary students skip grades. Social passing. Busy work homework. I could go on and on and on. All of the examples above have been pretty roundly critisized by researchers.
So, teaching is fallible. That's OK, I do not expect my sons' teachers to know everything, and I still respect their expertise (after all, I don't home school so I have some buy-in to public education.) But sure, I will put my foot down sometimes -- because I am the expert on the following: my kid and my family.
You mentioned the whole believing what your kid says about the teacher: come on, only a prenting idiot wouldn't check in with the other adult when the kid brings a tale home. That's basic respect.
Way to go Cin!
I have to admit that I'm a bit "down" on the teaching profession lately; after going to a parent teacher interview, and having the teacher look at me blankly and say that she couldn't picture my children --- yes "children". The teacher couldn't remember having a set of identical twins in her class!
I have a crush on Bethany's mom. I think I might have her over for a mojito party, but only if I can snuggle Bethany while she's here.
The mention of basic respect made me happy!! I think too often parents and teachers have an 'us against them' mentality that drives me wacky!! That was my main point, but I got a little carried away. We SHOULD all be there for the basic success and well being of the KID!
We definately have to question professionals. Just like someone told me last week not to question the government and I went "HUH!?" That's a bad idea all around. So, question politely I guess. I just wanted to get across that MOST (tee hee) teachers aren't complete morons, just like most parents aren't complete morons. Then again, we'd all be surprised by some of the things we hear on both sides of the table. When I have my teacher hat on, I'm sometimes terribly depressed by the lack of commom sense or even INTEREST in their kids life/education that parents show.
I wonder which category I'm going to fall into now that I'm both!? Yikes
I admit at the outset I have no children. So, my comments are likely less significant to this forum.
However, I live on the same planet as the rest of you and I deal with the byproduct of the "new education" every day in my job. Adults who can't spell or construct basic sentences without inserting "like" and "you know" every second word. Adults who can't make simple change for coffee if the cash register doesn't do the math for them. Adults who have zero grasp of basic geography and history, and seem proud of their cumulative ignorance.
Instead, I am faced with the result of a generation's work of letting kids ride the coattails of more dedicated students in group projects; kids who didn't earn a pass to the new grade but got moved along for esteem reasons; kids who have never been challenged to actually learn and produce, and God forbid, work and apply themselves, particularly to subjects that don't come easily or that they don't find interesting.
I am constantly frustrated by the ongoing lack of common sense and complex reasoning skills in the world today, and the attitude that you're some kind of chump for bothering to care about these things. We live in a society plagued with complacence and indifference, and I think a lot of this malaise has its roots in the laissez-faire educational system. So what if a kid learns a lesson that life can be harsh and you have to pull your weight, and their ego gets a little bruised? That's life. Mollycoddling kids doesn't do them any good in the long run; reality in the outside world is going to be pretty bloody harsh if we don't give these kids some skills and tools to deal with the challenges.
These are all things school should be teaching by setting standards and holding children to account. I end up feeling like a middle-aged version of Daniel, wondering why a lot of these people are gainfully employed.
I hate to disagree with you, but the real working world HAS been like this for me on several occasions (don't get me started!). I remember vividly completing my Bachelor of Commerce and having the same conversation over and over with my friend (also a leader/doer like me) about how we always do all the work in groups. There are always people that will be satisfied with a "C" but when you are trying to get into law school...well, needless to say, I redid a lot of group assignments. And my university had implemented group work for almost every single class for my degree...not a program I would recommend.
I'm not in any ways saying that I think there is any benefit whatsoever to group work - I think it's an awful experience and wastes a lot of time and, in the end, it did not prepare me for the slackers I have to deal with in the working world. Rather, I am equally frustrated by slackers today as I was from my first group assignment.
In short, boo for group work!
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Interesting post. For the record I had to do a group reserch project in my last master's program and it was painful to a fault. I really wanted to send one group member a "spin the wheel for dial an excuse" card.
"Indeed, I and several of my professional colleagues have made a nice living advising employers that - yes - they can cut the slackers from the team, and how to do it."
WOW! that line scares the .....out of me on so many levels. Not because I am considered a slacker, according by my colleagues and supervisors, rather because it suggests to me an attitude of selectivism and the potential for subjective selection in a workplace.
I have worked as a union employee, a unionized supervisor of unionized employees (a seriously not fun position to be in), freelance contractor, researcher, educator and NGO director. The laws of averages is just that: 75% of the workforce will be "average" aka mediocre, 15% will fail and if you are lucky 15% will excell.
Education stats are almost 33/33/33. Of any class starting 33% will fail, 33% will finish and 33% partially finish or change streams or return later.
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